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I dig the moniker BelDel very much!
BelDel (under that "name" or any other) is still the Lower East Side. So is the "East Village", for that matter. But that has its own identity now, so I guess it is what it is. But "BelDel" doesn't exist, except if one wants to be cute. It's the LES.
These new bars are creeping more East every year.
Soon they'll be by the East River, though this bar is pretty close to Chinatown proper.
When my old man first came to this country, he told us he slept in Sarah Roosevelt park in the summer and nothing would happen.
Back then it was not called the LES, it was a derogatory term. (1920's)
BelDel - ha ha! That's so Cali that it makes me a little dizzy...
When my old man first came to this country, he told us he slept in Sarah Roosevelt park in the summer and nothing would happen.
Back then it was not called the LES, it was a derogatory term. (1920's)
[3] Posted by: sarah roosevelt sleeper | June 30, 2006 02:17 PM
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It may have been derogatory (although I don't see how "lower east side" is any more innately derogatory that "upper east side"), but the Sarah Roosevelt Park area was very much called the Lower East Side during the twenties, as well as both earlier and later.
People might have had other names for it (or parts of it) to avoid stigma, as your dad indicated. I'm wondering if he ever told you what he/they preferred to call it.
Genny Cream Ale? Is this some sort of inside joke on the LES? Do hipsters actually order Genny Screamers by choice?
The land for the Sara D. Roosevelt park wasn't acquired by the city until 1929 and the park wasn't opened to the public until 1934. While the term LES may have been derogatory in the 1920s, the changes to the neighborhood over the past decade show much ten or fifteen years can change a neighborhood's image and characteristics.
Yes Dave, we know how much the LES has changed over the last 20 years. For example, noone can afford to live there anymore. But what are you actually saying?
was there last night. enjoyed the music and the good lookin' ladies who were dancin'.
bartender was cool.
thatisall.