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December 2, 2003

Nicole Richie is Black

The Simple Life

With the premiere of the Fox reality show, The Simple Life, with Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie, tonight at 8:30PM, we have decided to revisit a hilarious interview that E! Online's Kristin did with the girls. It kills us because that troublemaker Norm MacDonald asked what everyone wonders, but is too PC to speculate about: Nicole Richie's skin color.

Norm: "Isn't Lionel Richie a black guy?"
Paris: "She's black!"
Nicole: "I am black!"
Norm: "You're black?"
Norm: "Did you get in any trouble because you're black?"
Nicole: "No! You're so rude."
Norm: "I thought hillbillies didn't care for black people."
Nicole: "They love me."
Paris: "They love her."

Norm: "Because you're not black!"
Nicole: "Yes, I am black."

Norm: "Is your mother black?"
Nicole: "Yes, she's black. Do you want to ask her if she's black? This woman's black [pointing to another partygoer], do you want to ask her?"

Damn, Norm, you're lucky Nicole didn't throw a glass at your face. Although we'd be interested to see a Norm MacDonald vs. Nicole Richie smackdown.

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Comments (195)

if you can't find jokes about nicole's "blackness" funny, the terrorists most certainly have won.

maybe we don't notice her black-ness because she's joined at the hip to Ms. Hilton (aka Our Lady Of Absurdly Dark Tanning-Bed Pigmentation)?

opt1

 

I dunno.

1) They're the same skin color.
2) Perhaps more importanly, she's got long, straight, blonde hair.

I suspect that if one were to run into Ms. Richie on the street, one would think her white (at the very least, she is an interesting excerise in self denial).

At least I would.

 

If Anthony Hopkins can pass for black, so can Nicole Richie...

 

Is her Mom really black?

 

She looked pretty white to me when I saw her at the Sky Bar a few weeks ago.

 

If Abthony Hopkins can pass for Jewish. . .

 

Abthony Hopkins must do a lot of sit-ups!

LORD I KILL ME

 

I love Norm.

 

I keep thinking of that old joke "do you have a little _____ in you? do you want some?"

 

I keep thinking of that old joke "do you have some _____ in you? do you want some?"

 

I keep thinking of that old joke "do you have some _____ in you? do you want some?"

 

I keep thinking of that old joke "do you have some _____ in you? do you want some?"

 

I read she was adopted, and actually IS white.

 

I heard Nicole is actually Ozzy Osbourne's love child by Lionel Richie's wife. There's a big plan in the works to do a cross-over episode between The Osbournes and The Simple Life during sweeps next year.

 

she looks black to me... no surprise there... *shrug*

 

did anyone notice that paris is darker than her? she just looks like a white girl with a tan!

 

she looks nothing like her dad, and can someone please tell me when anthony hopkins passed as black???

 

Genetics is a funny thing. There are members of my family who are blue black and some who are milk white. This is America.

 

Dear Huh,

There was a movie made recently where Anthony Hopkins played a black man, but looked white. I personally think she was adopted.

 

Who cares what color she is??? In her circle the only color that matters is green.I f youareporr whittrash or proverty stricken and black she isnottrying to know you. Ya heard???/

 

I second that notion NYC, who the hell cares what color she is, whats the big deal!!!! you guys need to focus on bigger and better things than waste time pondering what race a person is!

 

If your going stickly for looks who cares shes a doll! I'm sure in real life she's a super bitch, but as for looks I don't care what race, she's a babe!

 

Dear Nat,

I think people are wondering about her race not out of prejudice but simply because it's fascinating to see how not-like her race she looks. Sure, it's not a "bigger and better" reason but hey it's amusing. Like that SNL character Pat where they can't figure out if Pat's a he or a she.

 

Wasn't she adopted?

 

Dear Candleblue,

I do understand your the point you are trying to make, it makes sense...I wish thats everyone saw your point of view.

 

maybe she's adopted and she's hispanic and white

 

To the oblivious white person who wrote, "... but Nicole Richie has straight blode hair..." above, for your information- that is not her real hair, those are hair extentions/weave or whatever you want to call it. Most people would not be able to notice, but being a black person, it's quite obvious. I bet you thing BEYONCE hair is real too, right? (LOL)

 

First, She is adpoted but, that doesn't have anything to do with her race. Secondly, she is black. Black is defined buy the US gov. as being at least 1/16 black. third, she is biologically 1/2 half. She identifies with her blackness more because both her adopted parents are Black (Lionel and his first wife) she was raise in a black household. Fourth, ther are plenty of 100% percent blacks that are very fair and have bone straight hair, very fair with kinky hair, dark with bone straight hair, dark with kinky hair, and every combo you can think of under the sun. That's why Black is beautiful is like being part of a rainbow. She is simply an example of why judging a person by their race, and the color of their skin ignorant. If most white Americans took the time to look a little deeper in to Afican-American history you would realize the we are all a lot closer that you think, and you might just find out more about yourself. If you could see my family you might be truly shock, but the really is, that because some of my realtives and ancestors have had to deal with the hardships of being black, being black is a part of me that I'll never deny mo matter have priveldged I am. I think if you ask Nicole she may tell you something very similar. LOOK and LEARN.

 

My, my, my....white america. Is your only concern whether she is black or not? First tell me this, why does it matter? Secondly, tell me this, why does it matter? Thirdly, why does it matter. Why are we as Americans so color stuck. If you ar not her parents, not her friends, not her ally, then suck off! Leave her alone! If she says she's black, then so be it. I cant imagine anyone who is white actually wanting to pass for black in this country. It doesnt happen like that. In America, some blacks might want to pass for white to be part of the status quota, but the other way around. Stupid, stupid, stupid people. The writer just above me is 100% correct. My daughter is 1/2 black and is whiter than her father with long straight blonde hair. Her sister who is 100% Anglo is darker than her with dark hair. Can you tell me she's not black? I dont think so.

 

This website says that Nicole was adopted as an infant by Lionel and his wife, Brenda.

http://www.geocities.com/rashidaonline/news4.html

 

SHE IS WAY TO BEAUTIFUL TO BE BLACK, THERE IS THE GORGOUS STRAIGHT HAIR, SLIM NOSE, MAYBE SHE USES MICHAEL JACKSON plastic surgeons and skin lighteners, lol, plus if she is adopted like some one says, WHO KNOW WHAT THE HECK SHE IS, but she sure is not black, and i hate the she seems PROUD to be black. sorry folks this is the way i was raised REBEL all the way.... so i am sure you will not post this. but it is freedom of speach. and that is the way i fee.

 

Where did you grow up?!? Black people come in all colors, and not all black people have the 'stereotypical' large nose and lips , and excuse me, anyone can have their hair straightened and dyed.

 

Nicole Richie is a very beautiful woman! Who cares what color she is/seems to be to everyone? As said above, people are a wide mix of genetics. There are some people who are black that do look "white", or whatever...but who cares? What is this world so concerned about color for? Every color is beautiful! I wish people would just use the word "person" or people instead of black, white, green, whatever...

 

she is black, I am af-am who looks white to most white people. Most blacks I meet know I am black or at least mixed. When I look at her she looks black to me. Just that he hair is flat-ironed and dyed blond. She's black and says she is so just leave it alone

 

the real reason why everyone is so hung up on her skin color is because of prejudice and racism. the "simple life" show is obviously geared to rednecks who want to see hot socialites live in a down-on-the-farm enviroment like the ones they live on. when these pigs were out at a clan meeting one of them found out that nicole's dad was lionel richie(a black man), and this led to the ruinig of a thousand white men's wet dreams and the creation of this website. the fact of the matter is that white people do not like black people and even the slightest inclination that someone is black makes them nervous. that is why black people are classified (by white people) as being 1/16 black. no one else is classified by being 1/16 white or asian, or arabic,or hispanic. race still plays too much of a giant role in our society, and it needs to stop because all life originated in the same area so we are all the same. However it was not black or white, it was BROWN.

 

sazy frazy is a racist idiot. that is why a person like reason is so smart. all races have beautiful, and all races have butt-ugly people. in addition all races should be proud of who they are. except people who are so proud that they become ignorant and post idioti messages on stupid sites i.e. sazy frazy.

 

I THINK THAT THEY ARE THE MOST PRETTIEST GIRLS AROUND ON TV AND I WOULD MARRY EITHER ONE AND QUIT MY JOB SELL MY HOUSE AND BE THERE LOVE SLAVE

 

So what if the gov defines black as 1/16?

Means nothing, people who are intent on finding racism often like to harp on about the racism of the old South Africa or Nazi Germany, where you were put into an ethnic group on some variation of the one drop of blood rule. X number of Jewish ancestors makes you Jewish, even if you are a blond 6 foot 6 tall blue eyed guy who didnt even know he was Jewish. The govs 1/16 rule falls into that way of thinking.

The problem with this is that its got nothing to do with racism or bigotry as its lived in the real world right now. You are judged by the way you look and the way you act. Nicole Richie looks like a rich, beautiful blond bimbo (and acts like one?) thats how people will react to her. She can protest she is black but thats not going to fool anybody is it? Her blackness may be important to her but it wont make people react differently to her than they do to Paris Hilton.

 

Either:

1. The Postman rang twice at Lionel's home

2. The hospital made a mistake and handed out wrong baby

3. This is a publicity ploy to boost shows ratings and Nicole is too benefit with others.

I do agree we should not judge people by their looks but obviously if she is black she does her best to hide it with the blond hair.

 

First off,

Nicole Ritchie is not all that...for those of you who think she's pretty...pah lease...well maybe cuz she's right next to paris..(who has that model look of a face)....u can see it in her face..her nose isn't that slim like y'all say it is..her face wouldn't be nothin without makeup..and she's adopted...ps. i think black women are beautiful..so its ignorant to make the comment "she's too beautiful to be black"..what the hell is that? Look at women like Aisha Tyler, Halle Barry, Queen Latifah(big n beautiful), i can go on an on...plus i heard nicole's adopted

 

I think Nicole is pretty.She has her own way of showing her beauty.If she is adopted she clearly has black in her.Every black person around can look at another black person even if to white or other races that black person doesnt look black and tell that they are.For example me,I am mixed.Also look at Alicia Keys and how fair her skin is,so now your going to tell me that she's not black or adopted.You people really need to get an idea and realize that you dont have to be dark with nappy hair to be black.

 

Stupid is as stupid does!When your a black man who has lived through the race problems and bigity, and still prevail you know thatyou don,t have to answer to anybody about who you are when your black in any shade. When you know how fast your legs can carry you when pass most all other races and sail above the rim where only a few other race even dream of being, you walk,talk and carry yourself with the confidence and inner knowledge that, no matter what they say they can only talk about it. They have no show me something in any of there words to hurt and destroy,Therefore, stupid is as stupid does!

 

Stupid is as stupid does!When your a black man who has lived through the race problems and bigity, and still prevail you know thatyou don,t have to answer to anybody about who you are when your black in any shade. When you know how fast your legs can carry you when pass most all other races and sail above the rim where only a few other race even dream of being, you walk,talk and carry yourself with the confidence and inner knowledge that, no matter what they say they can only talk about it. They have no show me something in any of there words to hurt and destroy,Therefore, stupid is as stupid does!

 

I agree with alot of writers when they say that it doesnt matter if you are Black and white. My grandmom remember the scandel when her dad cheated and got caught. He married her mom which is white and since her dad is Black she is Black the male determines the sex of the baby and if you dont agree with that then you are stupid. Their are alot of Black people who look white like Mariah she is Black because of her dad, Hallie Barry, Alicia Keys, and Vaniessa Williams when you mix different race you have mixed kids and it is nothing wrong with being mix just because both of your parents are not the same race. They are all Beautiful just like everyone people really need to grow up. After all this time alot of folks cant even see through and past color and that makes you a very sad person. If I was her I wouldnt care I would still embrace my Black side and be proud of my race. I am 100% Black I have both parents. It is also a true fact that majority of Black american have larger nose and full lips but I dont I have a skinny nose and small lips just like white americans what does that make me. My skin is light brown. Are you saying I am not Black people get a life and lead your own.

 

If Norm doesn't watch it, Nicole's mother will whoop on the head. I hear she knows how to open up a can of whip-*&*@#, just ask Lionel.

 

WHO CARES? NICOLE IS HOT! EVEN IF SHE WAS AN ALIEN.

 

Nicole is indeed adopted and there was a huge scandal at the time. Her real father is Peter Escovedo who currently stars on the Wayne Brady Show as Wayne's musical director. Nicole is Puerto Rican.

 

Maybe her daddy ain`t her daddy!!!

 

I don't know if you're really serious, sazy about your statements. I could make cheap shots about ignorance and lack of spelling skills but that would only blur the obvious. If you are serious, I guess it's only fair to say that beauty is and remains in the eye of the beholder. Some think straight hair is gorgeous, another long curly hair or short kinky pincurls. Some a slim nose, others a broad nose with proudly flaring nostrils. Whatever. You're right about free speech also. You have as much right to it as anyone else. You probably got a lot of hate mail. Maybe you just wanted the attention. Fact: It is possible for Nicole to be Black. End of story. Read up on genetics and stop arguing about it. Read up on hair relaxers too.

 

Look, Nicole is pretty because she has very white features. Alecia Keys, Mariah, Vanessa, Halle all half WHITE and beautiful. Queen Latifah?! Nigga Pleez! Ship her 3XL black ass back to the San Diego Zoo right next to Magilla Gorilla. All you Proud Black Africans (sure!) with (haha) straight hair, thin lips, light skin jet the fuck over to Nairobi, Kenya and look around then jet over to, say, Rome or Athens and take a look around. Where the fuck do you more closely resemble the average person? Just because you have a HINT of African features "coloring" a predominantly European background, don't start breaking out the bongo drums and spearing baboons just yet my Nubian queen. No, it is not possible for Nicole to be black EXCEPT in a country indoctrinated to consider having fractional African ancestry to black. Place her lightskinned bony ass in Ghana and see how she fits in. She's as black as Eminem.

 

I think it is terrible that everyone is questioning this girl. Even if she is adopted, it show the love she has for her dad to say she's black. If anyone recalls, Shania Twain did the same thing. Nicole may or may not be black, but either way she seems proud of that heritage, be it in her blood or not. I think that's beautiful. SazyFrazy, I'm sorry you grew up the way you did. It must be awful for you to have so much time to waste hating on people who really don't count on your opinion. But I'll pray for you, don't worry.

 

In regards to Tanisha's Dec 6 post "I bet you think BEYONCE hair is real too, right? (LOL)".. it's so obvious that Beyonce buys her hair from Tina Turner's old Ike Girl's hair shop. Go natural Beyonce! And no way is Lionel Richie Nicole's biological dad. Lionel Richie is and always has been butt ugly and I'm sure any child of his would have his unfortunate features.

 

Come on people it is possible to be her color and still be black. It is called genetics and it does happen in the real world. I have seen it and have people in my family with blonde hair and green eyes and they look white but they are black. At any rate it does not matter at all if she is black or not.

And the comment about "too beautiful to be black" what the hell kind of ignorance is that to say. Pretty sad of someone to be that shallow and to say something as assanine as that. Grow up people and read a book or something and learn about genetics before you speak about something that you know absolutely nothing about.

 

She look white to me. I had to keep looking at the television to see glimpses of Lionel. Lionel is light skinned, but maybe the mom cheated

 

does it really matter?? id bang her

 

The hair that everyone is so caught up on is a very very bad weave (fake hair added on), so don't think that that is what sets her apart from Black people. Her straight thin nose that someone pointed out earlier could have been formed on a surgeon's table. And can we say hair dye?? And like every person with any sense has said-- BLACK PEOPLE COME IN ALL COLORS, SHAPES AND SIZES. She might be adopted but if every one looks really closely you can see she is black.

 

she's adopted for surrre! but there could be a bit of black in her...who knows? and plus some mixed people look like they're white, I know plenty. Who cares what race she is anyway? btw nICOLE IS BUTT-UGLY..and paris looks exactly like barbie

 

It is very clear to me that she has black in her.And I am still looking for the slim nose she is supposed to have.But on any count she is a very pretty girl and it really shouldn't matter.Thats what makes us beautiful as a people our different shades.

 

Okay, some of you people need to get past your racism. As if they're no pretty women that are BLACK and not mixed. Stop using Halle Berry and Alicia Keys as examples. They do identify with being black, but at the same time they don't hesitate to mention that they're bi-racial. And there are some black people who are fair and have what people wouldn't consider 'black features' but are black biologically.

You idiots keep talking about Nicole's nose. LOOK AT HER NOSE where it flares and Paris' does not. She obviously has broader nostrils. She also has full lips and that could be her real skin tone. A lot of mixed children have a "cream" skin tone to them. And ultimately a lot of black and hispanic (especially) women can get away with looking white if they start with certain features and just alter the rest.

I know a girl who's Dominican, same skin tone as Nicole...she naturally has dark brown very curly hair and in her old photos she did look like a woman of color. But she flat irons her hair now, dyes it blonde and includes skin "brighteners" in her makeup regimen. She now honestly looks like an older version of the Olsen Twins, and guys fall all over her because of that. People guess she's Italian, French, German...never hispanic. It shows how much you know.

For a black person if they do all that and also add other enhancements like color contacts, they can fool a lot of people.

Like others said, learn something about genetics before you go talking. My boyfriend's brother still thinks that every mixed person in the world has to look EXACTLY like a perfect mix of their mom and dad....it's pathetic. I have black, white and Native American blood in my family, and some of us could pass for white with a straightened blonde hair. A lot of them have green/hazel eyes as well. Most (including myself) have some features that are considered "black", but generally light-med skinned and our hair isn't that coarse, so many times people think we're hispanic or middle eastern. And there are those in my family that you would never doubt are black. But we're all related, and genetics comes into play a lot. We have dark parents with fair kids and vice versa.

I know people like Ms. Richie. A girl who's park black and part French who's fair skinned with blonde hair and hazel eyes. She says she's part black and the idiots don't believe her. Also my basketball coach who was white as hell married a dark black woman and had a son who looked just like his WIFE and NOTHING like him. People thought he was adopted too.

If you doubt genetics, let me post this question to you:

When two people of the same race have a kid, and the kid is a "spitting image" of ONE OF THE PARENTS, nobody says anything, but they acknowledge the resemblence.

Now what would the kid look like in a mixed couple if the child is a spitting image of ONE OF THE PARENTS.

Voila! There you go.

 

Peter Escovedo is Shelia E's (from Prince's band and the song "The Glamorous Life") brother. He is half-black/ half hispanic. His mom is black and his father, who played with Carlos Santana, is hispanic. FYI, Carlos Santana is married to a black woman as well...

 

Let me add my piece to the "what the hell is she" puzzle.

The moment I saw her i thought, "creepy, what the hell is she". I then did my research. Nicole was adopted when she was 9 years old, and I believe her father is a member of the Commodores. Check her out on Rock Star Daughters on E! and you'll hear the scoop. Anywhoo, this proves once and for all, SHE IS ADOPTED.

Now for what she's doing, in all honesty I do believe the poor child is "trying to pass" broken down, she'll let people believe she's white. But in the end most black people, like myself, can tell she's got at least a drop in her. For one her knees are black, I saw her in a skirt. Secondly, her hair is a DAMN MESS, weave all fuct up, you can see her real hair underneath the blonde tracks on top of her hair and that hair beneath has a coarser texture. Her face is also a little more rounded than most white people's (not saying white people don't have round faces, but look at Paris and then look at her). Finally her nostrils do flare. All in all she is someone most black people would look twice at to try and guess what she's made of, cause most of us know something else is there.

And do remember, genetics are key here, black people do come in all shapes and shades from milky white and butter yellow to the darkest chocolate goodness. Everyone should embrace the skin they're in, and if they don't want to do that, at least get a convincing weave.

 

Shes neither black nor white.....she's a rich junkie princess! She could probably care less about everyone in this forum and even more about her heritage. The only color these spoiled kids care about is green. Now, lets all get a life and stop paying attention to celebrities who spend good money to live as far as possible from people like us.