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July 18, 2003

Lions and Tigers and Ligers, Oh My

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Apparently the Amman Zoo hopes that their tiger and lion will mate. Eep. Their baby would be a liger. According to the Sierra Safari:

A liger is the result of breeding a male lion with a female tiger. It has stripes and spots; the spots are inherited from the lion parent even though adult lions do not appear to be spotted. All ligers are presumed to be born sterile. This is not unusual for hybrids. Mules are the result of breeding a horse with a donkey and are also presumed to be sterile, although there is an occasional, extremely rare, exception.

Gothamist, while a fan of strange animals, is a little freaked out by some of these animals hybrids. And even though we understand the zoo wants to raise attendance, can't they do that with a regular cute baby lion or tiger cub?

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that's dope. in 4th grade me and j0sh tried to breed gerbils with hampsters to get a gerster- or was it a hampbil? either way the animals ended up eating each other.

 

I had no idea that lions and tigers were so closely related.

 

I'm saying - I said, "Ewww" when I first read that. It's like having cats and dogs mate, in my mind. (Obviously I know very little about the animal kingdom.)

 

I think some things should be left alone. Tigers and lions should not be forced to mate to get attendance up. Mother nature made lions and tigers two different species lets keep it that way. I wish we would stop messing up nature to suit our needs!!!

 

DodgeThis: We're not talking about gene-splicing, man. Just some zoo-keepers providing some romantic music, cocktails and a candle-lit antelope dinner, and seeing what happens. All you need is love, baby.

 

DodgeThis: We're not talking about gene-splicing, man. Just some zoo-keepers providing some romantic music, cocktails and a candle-lit antelope dinner, and seeing what happens. All you need is love, baby.

 

Hmm. It's like thinking outside the box. Or the cage, I guess. Maybe tigers and lions don't mate naturally because they're too confined by their laws and customs. Like peer pressure. But seriously, I wonder what the forced mating actually entails. If it were simply putting two horny cats in a small room and waiting until they were desperate enough to rumpshake, then I'd be okay with it. If it involved ruffies for large felines, I'd be worried.

 

Obviously, the recipe for getting lions and tigers to mate is:
4 parts Citron Vodka
2 parts Cointreau or Triple Sec
1 part Lime juice (preferably fresh)
2 parts Zebra blood

Repeat as necessary.

 


This reminds me of a friends dad who once owned some cabbits (cat crossed with rabbit). They were ugly and, weirdly, stinky.

More recently, living near Tompkins Sq Park, I swear i have seen one or two squirats.

 


This reminds me of a friends dad who once owned some cabbits (cat crossed with rabbit). They were ugly and, weirdly, stinky.

More recently, living near Tompkins Sq Park, I swear i have seen one or two squirats.

 

hahaha...Love transcends genus species

 

Andre - I'm curious. When you write that the cabbits were "ugly and weirdly stinky" what do you mean? Can you be a little more specific?

 

I used to date a cabbit! I'd say, "Let's walk. It's only a couple blocks." And she'd say...

 

I'd rather hop?

 

Duh! She'd say "No, let's CAB IT."

 

Oops. How emBEARassing.

 

Cabbits are clean annd cute I should know cause I own 5 of them.

 

If a male Lion and a Tigeress Mate, and produce offspring...
The Resulted Offspring is a Nephilim Cat. A "Hybrid Giant of ancient prehistoric legend."

If you think what I am saying is farfetched, believe me it isn't.

The Liger is a Monsterous Cat, which rivals even the largest ancestral sabre tooth's in the fossil Record. The LIGER is an unnatural GIANT.

LIGERS, are the LARGEST Felines in the world. Literaly, The size of a room. They can weigh as much as a horse(800-1200 lbs) and run as fast as 40-50 mph. From nose to outstretched tail, they have been recorded at lengths of 12 feet. (3.6 meters). while standing on all fours, From the toe to the top of the ear, they can stand 4 and an half feet.(The height of a 10 year old child).

Fortunately, if they are trained in a loving environment, They are very mellow and playful animals.

But if they were trained to attack other animals, or people, they would be among the most terrifying animals one could logicaly imagine.

 

Yall think that is weird. I see two of the freakiest cats probably on the face of the planet in Hawaii.
I saw a Lion x Black Jaguar cross (male) and a Tiger x Black Jaguar cross (female).
The male had a blue grey face with several scars on it. The face was like the color of a blue/grey pit bull distinct from the rest of the body. It had a short thick jet black mane that that covered only its head, around the ears and neck and under the chin. Almost like a short goatee that was the same length and color of the "fro" all around. The jet black mane was no more than 4 inches long and outlined the face with a 'square hair line!"
The body was small and scrawny with a solid dark tawny color. The tail was also thin but it deffinetely had the characteristic curve shape and black tuft of hair at the end. The black tuft of hair matched the short mane in its color and texture. This hybrid cat was about 180 pounds in my estimation. I feel that it is a cross between a lion and a black jaguar beacause the cat had the large, boxy downturned face of a lion. As well as were the mane, tufted tail and tawny scrawny body characteristic of a lion.
The female sleeping next to it was larger withan elongated nexk and stripes as well as rossette markings ont its side. I beleive the female was a tiger black leopard because it had the characteristic "brindle" stripes of a tiger as it also had stripes coming off from the center of its face. The stripes however were a combination of black, dark brown, light brown, dark orange, dark yellow and beige. The large cat(female) also had a few large rossettes on its side. The rossettes were like those of a jaguar. The face and skull shape was like that of a cross between a jaguar and a tiger. The neck was distinctively elongate with small ears. The female(tiger x blk jaguar) had short fur all over but was up to maybe 100 lbs heavier than the male(lion x blk jaguar). The combination of the brindle stripping and the Rossettes with neck length lead me to beleive that this was tiger black jaguar cross
Both of the animals were sleeping with a dead wild pig I heard them kill the night before. I krept upon them around 6am. preparing to shoot some pigs for lunch, but when i realized what i was lookin at(through the cross hairs!) I almost lost control of my bowels and started to back step to the campsite.
When I sought help nobody beleived me, until three weeks later when tourists and island residents began seeing other large hybrid cats on the other side of the island.
The male(lion x blk jaguar) was about the ugliest thing I have ever seen. The amount of scars on his puffy face made him appear to be in a perpetual state of grimace.
The combination of his blue grey face withe the square hairline and short blk mane/goatee gave him an uncanny gargoyle look that gives me goosebumps.
The female(tiger x blk jaguar) was very impressive almost pretty with her brindle stripping on the body and face with her elongate neck and cut muscular physique.
I refer to this as the female because i saw several nipples along her underside that looked slightly swollen(like she was pregnant!)
Anyway, I been trippin on what I saw since i saw them last June 2003 not only because of the above encounter, but also because I had a face off stalking confrontation with them at dusk the day before. the day before I snuck up on them and realized what they were.

These hybrid big cat web pages are my only consolation keeping me from loosin it over.....my encounter and leave me feeling justified.

If anybody has any information regarding the keeping of or freeing of large full bred or hybrid big cats in Maui, Hawaii, I would like you to contact me.

dakine_cuz@yahoo.com

Peace & Aloha

 

Ligers Are Not Real. We are having a huge debate at our school and i am against the existience of ligers and do not believe that it is possibke for them to exist

 

Ligers Are Not Real. We are having a huge debate at our school and i am against the existience of ligers and do not believe that it is possibke for them to exist

 

Cristin Howar:

Cabbits are not real. A cat and a rabbit cannot produce offspring. The Manx cat carries some superficial resembalence to a rabbit, and occasionally has a certain type of pelvis deformity that makes it look rabbit-like, and some seriously inbred Manxes move with a sort of hop-like motion, but they are not "cabbits".
Another deforimity in cats caused by inbreeding are shortened forelimbs, which causes the cat to be unable to use it's forelimbs and so it adopts a sort of hop to get around. Some cats are also born with stumpy tails, but this doesn't make them rabbits either.

I'm amazed I have to explain to you that cabbits don't exist and your animals are just unusual cats. Please tell me you were pulling my leg.

Oh, and Tyler? I'm afraid your schoolmates are wrong. Ligers do exist, although they are not always fertile.

 

i have no idea what ligers are but brother tells me that they are about the size of 2 grown men upon 1 another when they are on thier hind legs!
and er Chris your story was interesting but honestly that is just freaky!....BY THE WAY CABBITS ARE NOT REAL that is absolutley stupid so send a picture then we can all see if they are the manx cat or a figure of ur imagination!

 

Is it just me or do other people want a picture of this so called liger???

 

Is it just me or am i the only one talking here i want to kno more about the liger so if ne 1 knos ne thing send it to babyjase@hotmail.com ok??

 

Pictures, eh?
Follow this link:
http://www.sierrasafarizoo.com/animals/liger.htm

 

The picture up top is sweet.

It's amazing to think they naturally communicate in a way sufficient for attraction seeing as lions are the "most" social of the big cats this might be reason. As for some of the above comments ...actauly lion ranges used to cover pretty much the entire mass of Europe/Asia so the likelyhood of a cross Naturally ocuuring is'nt so strange. But due to the roman empires spread and their subsequent penchant for S&M theatre many died in the gladiator matches or where like north american cougars/mountain-lion killed off by human growth for territory.

Anyway it gives an interesting perspective into some interesting posibilities.

If you think this is strange consider how you feel when you look into the eyes of a baby of practically any species (dogs are a fair start). You are compelled to love and care for them ..till they start breathing fire and look at U funny!!

Cats have been shown to have the same human delema wher at one point a wild leopard almost adopted a lion cub(natural enemies of the highest order). the most extreme situation i've ever heard was when a female lioness actually adopted a Fawn and took care of it till it reached maturity (15 mnths) when a male lion fought her and killed the deer for food.

 

It is possible,and that lion isn't a lion it is already a Liger,look at the spots and strips on it's legs.They are also both cats,closely related so it is no surprise.

 

ligers are real, me and my granmomma seen one at a private zoo in Austria. The keeper says they are infertile and only live for about six years or something.
Other things in the zoo were pretty cool, there was a strange dog-fox thing and an exhibit on the mix between a monkey and a real lady. i think she was called emily but i only seen her corpse and some photos, i think from when the japanese sent her into space or had her on there space programme.

 

I think this picture is a pitures of the future!!!
just imagine if there were such things as ligers or maybe there'd be called tions!!!

 

I think this picture is a pitures of the future!!!
just imagine if there were such things as ligers or maybe there'd be called tions!!!

 

hey peepz i fink dat u r all geeks and dat u shood all get a life and its ma b'day in 3 days so wish me a happy b'day and andre kt wood lik 2 hook up wid u som time
only jokin love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kt and ema in da houseeeee

 

ligers are real . i would know i did a study on them and sent a letter to a place where the have 2 of them.tyler your school is wrong so hahhah

 

if u want to contact me email stephaniegat@charter.net.gotta use my mums cuz mine broken.if u want pictures go to www.lairweb.com or www.shambala.com.

 

who ever thinks there is a such thing as a cabbit has mental problems.your so called cabbit is probly a manx .a rodent cannot breed with a cat they hav to be related in some way .jesus!!!

 

who ever thinks there is a such thing as a cabbit has mental problems.your so called cabbit is probly a manx .a rodent cannot breed with a cat they hav to be related in some way .jesus!!!

 

who ever thinks there is a such thing as a cabbit has mental problems.your so called cabbit is probly a manx .a rodent cannot breed with a cat they hav to be related in some way .jesus!!!

 

cabbits are a mystical creatures with long ears and cat like bodys and rabbit feet and r sometimes thought to hav wings.your so called cabbits are probly deformed manxs.

 

looik iv studdied ligers four 7 years and they are a magnificent animal oh yea and they are real

 

look iv studdied ligers four 7 years and they are a magnificent animal oh yea and they are real

 

tray u are cool and very right .so hahahah tyler

 

tray u are cool and very right .so hahahah tyler

 

for all you that thank that ligers are not real have i got some news for you i have seen a real liger at terpintine creec wild life sancuarey i even have a pictur of him. he was only 2 years old and was as big as a full grone male siberian tiger

 

hay toucan sam ther is absolotly no way you could cross a cat and a rabbit its geneticly impossibal
the only way to croos two difrint spesies is for them to be in the same familey like dogs wolves cayots and foxes are in the canine familey and tigers lions lepords jaguarer and domestick cats are in the felion familey

 

A male lion bred with a female tiger have offspring that lack a growth-inhibitive gene - thereby causing the young to be enormous cats! And, from what I read, they ARE fertile.I find it very interesting, and no more repulsive than cross-breeding dogs, horses - or different races of human beings.

 

Ligers are definitely real!!! They are for sure one of the most beautiful and interesting animals you are ever going to see. They are twice as tall as a full grown man. It's truly amazing!!! The article geocities had was the worst thing I've ever senn. Ligers have wonderful dispositions, I would know for a fact. So geocities you need to grow up and shut the @*#& up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I think breeding these beautiful cats together is wonderfull its just like breeding any household cats together and can other large cats breed together?

 

I think breeding these beautiful cats together is wonderfull its just like breeding any household cats together and can other large cats breed together?

 

I think breeding these beautiful cats together is wonderfull its just like breeding any household cats together and can other large cats breed together?

 

I keep hearing about these so called "cabbits" some say they are real, and others say they are not. If you think they're real, can you provide a link to the pictures, if any?

Thanks.

 

Lets clear things up for all the skeptical dorks out there who have not done an ounce of biology.... ONLY animals of the same GENUS can breed together, however the offspring they produce are sterile (cannot produce young themselves). GENUS is a scientific classification from the taxonomy. After GENUS, comes the SPECIES. EG. Homo Sapiens (humans)

GENUS: Homo Species: Sapiens

Tiger: Panthera tigris
Lion: Panthera Leo

Lion x tiger = Liger. Note both animals have the SAME GENUS thus they can interbreed to produce offspring. So if you are ever curious to know what can possibly be bred together, simply check the genus of both animals in question. After that it's a matter of getting the animals to actually breed which is a whole separate matter.

As for a cabbit.....there is no such F***ing thing. The common rabbit is Oryctolagus cuniculus
While the common domesticated cat is Felix Cattus.

THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY OF THESE TWO BREEDING!!. Is that clear????????? they are a totally different genus.

Anyway, hope that ends the debate here. For more pictures of liger or a zorse(horse and zebra) or wholphins (killer whale & dolphin) do a search in google images. BTW, any pictures of "cabbits' you may see are totally fake. (photoshop fun). Don't be duped into believing they exist.

L8terz

 

I know ligers are real I've seen dozens of pictures of them and seen documentaries on them. But whether they should be forced to breed is another story, i mean how would you like to put in a cage with a chimpanzee for a few years. Forced doesn't have to be "physically forced," either they most probably took the cubs away from their mothers when they were you so they didn't "how to be a lion" or "how to be a tiger" and thought it was ok to mate with another species, who knows they probably thought they were the same species, how often does a lion or tiger look in the mirror.

 

I think it is truly amazing that they can crossbreed between these two animals! And to think they could be the next generation of animals.

 

I think it is truly amazing that they can crossbreed between these two animals! And to think they could be the next generation of animals.

 

In my biology textbook (Heinemann Biology book one) it states that lions and tigers give ligers, cats and dogs give dats, and tomatoes and potatoes give pomatoes. Are they all of the sane genus?

 

In my biology textbook (Heinemann Biology book one) it states that lions and tigers give ligers ; cats and dogs give dats ; and tomatoes and potatoes give pomatoes. Are they all of the same genus??

 

Everything doesn't exist just for the interests of human beings. These two animals evolved over millions of years, adapting and changing to better survive in their environment why not just stop and take a look at what millions of years of evolution has produced instead of friggin stuffing around with everything.

People have no right to manipulate millions of years of adaptive perfection just for personal interest, or in this case, not unusually, for money. human beings aren't mother nature, nor are they god.

 

I have to agree that a "cabbit" is about as likely to be real as a jackelope. I would doubt that they even have the same number of chromosomes, which would cause some pretty big problems. The Razil Jinx person was on the right track, except he seems to forget that all of our classification schemes are human produced and purely artificial. As Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut said, "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." Any microbiologist will tell you that using our current classification system (which has major revisions ever few years) is a real headache, especially with fungi and bacteria. Much like a roadmap vs. the road, there is not a 1:1 correspondence. It does not matter whether animals are in the same genus, family or species, really. What is comes down to is that some relatively distantly related individuals can mate and produce fertile offspring and others can't. Occasionally the offspring of horses and donkeys are fertile and occasionally the offspring of lions are tigers are fertile. On the other hand, even some individuals within a "species" are unable to produce fertile offspring. It's much more like a slowly fading color spectrum than what your textbooks (or lazier biology professors) might make it out to be. And as for the home range of the organisms, remember that the animals we consider to be "African" today were once far more widespread. In Britain, bones of hippo and other creatures have been found while digging canals. Even in historical times, lions, bears, buffalo and other creatures existed in Europe which sound strange to us today. You may notice that some family crests contain a lion even though the people have not traveled very far and live nowhere near an area where they would see a lion today. There is still a small area in India where Lions coexist with Tigers, though that will probably be short lived.

 

I have a question. Is this just something that is a joke or is this foreal

 

Damn! lion and tigress, how sad of these people whom only want to get money from 'em. these animals are not for crazy experiments. why don't you study them in other way instead of force them to breed with other kind of freak?. just leave them alone, damn with y'all. you wouldn't like to mate with a dog huh?
so let 'em live a quite tranquil life in their lands, to mate and breed their respective species.
back to you suckas!!!

 

ligers are cool

 

i dont know what you are doenig to thoes poor anmails but you need to leave the poor things alone and not try to cross breed them and cabbits are not real and jacklopes an not real eather so stop talking about them and tigers and lions are not ment to bread to getheer so stop trying to get them to bread to gether you crazy sons of a b****

 

I think if GOD wanted to have ligers on earth he would have put them here. Let God do the creation not y'all.

 

Y'all are some SICK, SICK, SICK People. Also, the people that agrees with it is SICK, SICK people

 

i think ligers are amazing animals so send me one retard tol or else ill kill ur stupid f***** a**